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		<title>Canadian Experience with Skype Access and Boingo WiFi</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Courtney</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skype Access, where a Skype user can go to any Boingo WiFi access point and use Skype Credits to pay for Boingo service on a “per minute” basis via Skype Credits, has so far only been available via Skype for Mac 2.8 beta launched in early January. However, as a St. Patrick’s Day present, Skype [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://www.voiceontheweb.biz/mobile-root/wireless-carriers/canadian-experience-with-skype-access-and-boingo-wifi/' addthis:title='Canadian Experience with Skype Access and Boingo WiFi '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div><p><a href="http://voiceontheweb.biz/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/skypeboingologo.jpg" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-2140];player=img;" title="SkypeBoingo.logo"><img style="border-width: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 5px; display: inline;" title="SkypeBoingo.logo" src="http://voiceontheweb.biz/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/skypeboingologo-thumb.jpg" border="0" alt="skypeboingologo thumb Canadian Experience with Skype Access and Boingo WiFi" width="112" height="126" align="right" /></a> Skype Access, where a Skype user can go to any Boingo WiFi access point and use Skype Credits to pay for Boingo service on a “per minute” basis via Skype Credits, has so far only been available via <a href="http://voiceontheweb.biz/2009/01/skype-for-mac-28-beta-launches/" target="_blank">Skype for Mac 2.8 beta launched in early January</a>. However, as a St. Patrick’s Day present, <a href="http://share.skype.com/sites/mac/2009/03/10000_minutes_of_skype_access.html" target="_blank">Skype announced that they would give away 10,000 free minutes of Skype Access</a> for one week from March 17 to March 23 00.00 GMT. Skype will pick up the first 30 minutes of an individual user’s session under this promotion.</p>
<p><a href="http://voiceontheweb.biz/2009/01/skype-for-mac-28-beta-launches/" target="_blank">Having failed, shortly after launch in early January</a>, to get Skype Access to work at a local Starbucks, where Bell Mobility has a partner agreement with Boingo, I returned to the same Starbucks (Streetsville in Mississauga, Canada) this afternoon. I can now report that, on launching Skype for Mac 2.8 beta on a MacBook, Skype Access was immediately recognized and a WiFi session commenced.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.disruptivetelephony.com/2009/03/of-ecomm-and-boots.html" target="_blank" title="Click here for the story behind Dan's boots"><img style="border: 0pt none ; margin: 0px 10px 0px 0px; display: inline;" title="Click here for the story behind Dan's boots" src="http://voiceontheweb.biz/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/danyorkbootsmar09180px.jpg" border="0" alt="danyorkbootsmar09180px Canadian Experience with Skype Access and Boingo WiFi" width="200" height="155" align="left" /></a> During this time I successfully made an excellent quality Skype video call to Dan York where the technical specs showed the video to be 640 x 480 @ 15 fps (or slightly greater – recall that Mac webcams do not meet the 30 fps network transmission specifications required for Skype High Quality Video). At 25 minutes I was warned that I only had five more minutes to use Skype Access free; while I certainly went beyond five minutes, I do not see any charges against my Skype Credits when looking at my call history.</p>
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<p>Using WiFi at a Canadian Starbucks (provisioned by Bell Mobility) now gives me five options for acquiring WiFi access:</p>
<ul>
<li>Skype Access (~C$0.23 per minute using Skype Credits)</li>
<li>Bell Mobility (C$0.15 per minute via credit card)</li>
<li>Bell Mobility (C$0.15 per minute charged to my Rogers Wireless account)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.starbucks.ca/en-ca/_Our+Stores/Wireless.htm" target="_blank">Starbucks Card</a> (free for up to 2 hours daily provided you have used your Starbucks card in the previous 30 days, also <a href="https://secure.sbc.com/sblp_index.adp" target="_blank">available over AT&amp;T</a> in the U.S.).</li>
<li><a href="http://www.boingo.com/what-is-boingo.php" target="_blank">Boingo</a> (~C$11.50 per month, suitable for road warriors, provides unlimited access at thousands of North American locations)</li>
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<p>Obviously Skype Access is a service that one would use as a last resort in attempting to make WiFi access. For instance, need a quick email check or browser lookup while in an airport waiting room or at a Starbucks between meetings on the road, Skype Access becomes a convenience. Definitely not a service I would use for a two hour meeting requiring Internet access at a Starbucks in Canada.</p>
<p>I also took the opportunity to check out Boingo’s access services. When I booted the MacBook, I immediately received notification that I was at a Boingo access point. Turned on my iPhone with the Boingo client installed; once again I was able to make a connection. However, this required me to navigate through three or more Bell Mobility “login” pages on the iPhone &#8211; including having to re-enter my Boingo login data at one point – tedious but I was eventually connected.</p>
<p>I then attempted to access Boingo WiFi on my BlackBerry Bold. Once again <a href="http://labs.boingo.com/blog/?p=91" target="_blank">the new <em>alpha</em> Boingo client for BlackBerry</a> recognized I was at a Boingo access point; however, i was not able to login successfully. A report is forthcoming to Boingo contacts but I also have reason to believe there is an issue with the BlackBerry WiFi access algorithms on my older, but most recent Rogers, version of BlackBerry firmware in this case.</p>
<p>The key point here is that WiFi access for road warriors is continuously expanding, not only in terms of number of locations but also variety of service options available, even at one location. And Boingo, whose story I have followed since its launch in 2001, continues to expand not only its locations but also the platforms supported.</p>
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		<title>Skype for Mac 2.8 Beta Launches</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jim Courtney</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[At MacWorld&#8217;s Showstoppers event this evening Skype announced Skype for Mac 2.8 beta, with two major new features as well as several minor ones. Screen Sharing The most impressive feature is a form of basic screen sharing. Either a segment of your screen or the full screen is converted into a virtual webcam such that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style " addthis:url='http://www.voiceontheweb.biz/skype-world/skype-markets-skype-world/skype-for-personal/skype-for-mac-28-beta-launches/' addthis:title='Skype for Mac 2.8 Beta Launches '  ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like" fb:like:layout="button_count"></a><a class="addthis_button_tweet"></a><a class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div><p><a href="http://voiceontheweb.biz/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/skype_logo.png" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-1316];player=img;" title="skype_logo"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-797" title="skype_logo" src="http://voiceontheweb.biz/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/skype_logo.png" alt="skype logo Skype for Mac 2.8 Beta Launches" width="105" height="47" /></a>At MacWorld&#8217;s Showstoppers event this evening <a href="http://about.skype.com/2009/01/skype_28_beta_for_mac_delivers.html">Skype announced Skype for Mac 2.8 beta</a>, with two major new features as well as several minor ones.</p>
<p><strong>Screen Sharing</strong></p>
<p>The most impressive feature is a form of basic screen sharing. Either a segment of your screen or the full screen is converted into a virtual webcam such that the screen can be viewed in <em>any</em> Skype client via the Skype video channel. While only a Mac can currently be a source for this screen sharing it can be viewed on any Windows, Mac or Linux client as video.</p>
<p>Skype for Mac&#8217;s screen sharing feature is sufficient to support discussion issues as a complement to a voice and/or chat conversation; it is NOT by any means a replacement for fully featured desktop or application sharing offerings such as <a href="http://skypejournal.com/blog/2008/04/yugma_skype_edtiion_version_3_1.html">Yugma</a>, <a href="http://www.maestroasp.com/innerpass_prod/innerpassstart.htm">Inner Pass</a> or IBM&#8217;s <a href="http://www.unyte.net/">Lotus Sametime Unyte</a>. It&#8217;s &#8220;just&#8221; screen sharing. In fact, it is one of two options on the Skype for Mac&#8217;s &#8220;Share&#8221; button, the other being file sharing/transfer.</p>
<p>Below is an example of a full screen image of a shared MacBook screen as seen in a detached Skype video window on my Windows laptop.</p>
<p><a href="http://voiceontheweb.biz/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/skype4mac2_8betafullscreenshare500px.jpg" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-1316];player=img;" title="skype4mac2_8betafullscreenshare500px"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1319" title="skype4mac2_8betafullscreenshare500px" src="http://voiceontheweb.biz/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/skype4mac2_8betafullscreenshare500px-480x379.jpg" alt="skype4mac2 8betafullscreenshare500px 480x379 Skype for Mac 2.8 Beta Launches" width="480" height="379" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Skype Access</strong></p>
<p>The second major feature, Skype Access, provides WiFi access for your MacBook or MacBook Pro via any Boingo access point. While I&#8217;m told it has been tested at many of the <a href="http://boingo.jiwire.com/">over 100,000 Boingo hotspots worldwide</a>, I could not get it to work at a local Canadian Starbucks listed as a Boingo hotspot location. But then, this is still beta (and the problem may be with Boingo&#8217;s interface with Bell Mobility). ([Update: on a March 19 visit to the same Starbucks, <a title="Skype Access Success at Starbucks" href="http://voiceontheweb.biz/2009/03/canadian-experience-with-skype-access-and-boingo-wifi/" target="_self">Skype Access worked with no problems</a>.]</p>
<p>More importantly is to look at the &#8220;use case&#8221; for Skype Access. Cost for using Skype Access over Boingo is US$0.22/€0.16/C$0.23 per minute <span style="text-decoration: underline;">using Skype credits</span>.</p>
<p>Within a user&#8217;s home country, Skype Access is probably more expensive than local alternatives; this is certainly the case in Canada. However, I can see the value if I am outside the home country and wanting to make Skype/SkypeOut calls, check email or do some web browsing at airports, restaurants, coffee shops and other Boingo hotspots as an alternative to much higher cost roaming wireless calls (for instance roaming U.S. to Canada on Rogers runs at $1.75 per minute) or $40 per day Internet access charges at some European hotels.</p>
<p>With unlimited use Boingo subscriptions at $21.95/month for North America or $59/month Global, Skype Access is more appropriate for the occasional traveler as opposed to the hardened road warrior.</p>
<p>It reminds me of the use case for PamFax where you can send faxes directly from, say, your hotel room for about $0.20 per page while avoiding a hotel&#8217;s much higher $1.00/page charge for faxing. One other common feature between Skype Access and PamFax: both use Skype credits as the primary currency.</p>
<p><strong>Other features in Skype for Mac 2.8 beta:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Skype for Mac 2.8 continues the use of a &#8220;drawer&#8221; attached to a Skype chat window; from the list of active chat sessions shown in the drawer you can select which session you want to view. But now there are three levels of prioritization available for those chat sessions. In addition chats can be sorted by name or date/time.</li>
<li>The process for adding contacts to a chat session now simply involves clicking the &#8220;Add a Contact&#8221; button and entering the added contact&#8217;s name.</li>
<li>Your Contacts&#8217; Mood Messages can be tracked via a &#8220;Mood Message&#8221; chat session. While this can currently only be initiated on Skype for Mac 2.8, your mood message chat session will show up as a chat session on, say, a Windows client logged into the same account. Neat for keeping up-to-date on mood message changes, especially when a mood message provides location or reference URL information; it provides a Twitter-like experience.</li>
<li>Add notes to contacts: when you go into a Contact&#8217;s profile there is a separate tab for entering personal notes about that contact.</li>
</ul>
<p>Dan York, with a lot more Skype for Mac experience than I have had (I just acquired a MacBook ten days ago), has provided <a href="http://www.disruptivetelephony.com/2009/01/skype-28-beta-for-mac-os-x-provides-screen-sharing-wifi-access-chat-features-and-twitter-like-mood-messages.html">a much more detailed review of all the new features</a> He has also produced an excellent You Tube video for his Emerging Tech Talk series:</p>
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<p>Skype for Mac 2.8 beta can be <a href="http://www.skype.com/go/macosx-beta">downloaded here</a> January 6. <a href="https://developer.skype.com/MacSkype#head-196139e12f91454b97df32d37cd095febd762d90">Full Release Notes</a></p>
<p>Skype Posts: <a href="http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2009/01/skype_28_beta_for_mac.html">Share Skype Blog</a>, <a href="http://share.skype.com/sites/garage/2009/01/skype_28_beta_for_mac.html">Skype Garage Blog</a></p>
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